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27 September 2006 @ 09:56 pm
Poll and Miscellany  
Three things, almost entirely content free. (But one of them is a poll! There will be clicking, and that's always fun, right?)

I swear I will have actual content in this LJ again. Eventually. In the meantime -
  1. Remember the poll? Um, this one? Thanks to everyone who took it, by the way, and I am slowly working my way through the comments, because they are meaty and thought-filled and fun. And I'm knee-deep in meta about it, but it's taken a strange turn. So I'm hoping that some of you will do my a favor, and run a poll like this one:

    Poll #831564 Fan archetypes.

    This is sort of like a Sorting Hat deal, only - not. In your opinion - ignore my own opinion, please - what fan archetype am I, TFV? All answers cheerfully accepted; it's not like any of these is a bad archetype. I don't have, like, Fan Villain on here or anything.

    Baaaaaaaby animal: I've been in fandom less than a year, so I don't know what I'll be yet.
    1(0.4%)
    Camel: I sometimes don't have any fandom at all. And then I get to an oasis and get into it again.
    0(0.0%)
    Canadian goose: I mate for life; I've only ever had one fandom, and I've had that fandom for more than two years.
    1(0.4%)
    Gorilla: I have a select group of 3 - 6 fandoms that I stick by.
    20(8.5%)
    Human: I have one true fandom, but I, um, see other fandoms from time to time.
    5(2.1%)
    Hummingbird: I dart from fandom to fandom. Nothing holds my attention for long. I've had many, many fandoms.
    12(5.1%)
    Lone wolf: I have a teeny true fandom, so I supplement with other, larger fandoms.
    5(2.1%)
    Magpie: I love the shiny, and I'm always picking up new fandoms, but I keep the old ones back at the nest. I have many, many fandoms.
    131(56.0%)
    Swallow: I migrate back and forth between two fandoms.
    2(0.9%)
    Turtle: I move from fandom to fandom, but very slowly.
    10(4.3%)
    Zoologist: I'm a fan of fandom, not of any specific one.
    28(12.0%)
    Chimera: some combination of the above.
    18(7.7%)
    Fantastic beast: none of the above.
    1(0.4%)


    Basically, I want you to ask your friends what archetype they think you are. (I've alphabetized the archetypes to make finding them easier.) And while you're here, please do pick mine; I'm truly curious to see if there's a difference between how I see myself and how others see me. (In this sense only. I'm not crazy.)

    Sadly, I don't have bribes to offer. But if you do run a poll like this, and you also drop me a link in the comments here, I will be forever grateful. And you will be furthering the cause of meta. (I know, I know, it's not precisely ever fan's dream, but - stay with me, here, okay?)

  2. This is driving me insane, so - okay. I collect what I call genderswapped songs. Although, really, I should call them ungenderswapped songs - the song is covered by a singer of a different sex than the original one, but no gendered element of the song is changed. I have one song by Cam Clarke, from Inside Out, which is a whole CD of songs just like this. (The one I have is Son of a Preacher Man.) And I cannot find the whole CD anywhere. Does anyone have a copy of this? Or know where I can get a copy of this? I am experiencing the anguish of the thwarted collector, and it is not pretty.

  3. This is more of a bonus item; I found it interesting. If any of you watch AMVs - and if you don't, why not? - you might want to take a look at this AMV-related survey.
 
 
 
Minotaur: big queen sezminotaurs on September 27th, 2006 10:10 pm (UTC)
I've heard the rest of Cam's album, and it's nowhere near as good as Son of a Preacher Man - much mellower. Much, much, MUCH mellower. Like, 'SOAPM came off an entirely different album' mellower.
tried to eat the safe banana: Musicthefourthvine on September 27th, 2006 10:39 pm (UTC)
Well, since collectors cannot be swayed by rhyme, reason, or taste (seriously; I lived with a chronic collector once, so I know whereof I speak), I still totally want the CD - and I have it now, because malnpudl is wonderful - but thank you for warning me. Because SoaPM blew me away, and I was sort of hoping for more stuff like that, but now I will not be disappointed when I listen to it.
Macadamanaity: dead like memacadamanaity on September 27th, 2006 10:25 pm (UTC)
I, sadly, don't have that CD but I just wanted comment and say that I have an obsession with 'genderswap' songs as well. They make me strangely happy. Me First and the Gimmie Gimmies has quite a few (seeing as how they only do covers), if you didn't already know that. Two of my favourites from them are 'Don't Cry For Me Argentina' and 'My Boyfriend's Back.'
tried to eat the safe banana: Musicthefourthvine on September 27th, 2006 10:40 pm (UTC)
Oooo. I do have some Me First and the Gimmie Gimmies, but not either of those, oddly enough.

*adds to mental wishlist*
(no subject) - macadamanaity on September 27th, 2006 10:49 pm (UTC) (Expand)
¿es eso un libro de besos?: fangirldarthfox on September 27th, 2006 10:32 pm (UTC)
What if a Canada goose and a hummingbird had a baby, which was then raised in a turtle village by a family of gorillas?

This may be the sort of fan I am as well, now that I think about it.

Also: omfg a recording of a boy singing "Son of a Preacher Man". [downloads liek whoa]
tried to eat the safe banana: Dinosaurs and sodomythefourthvine on September 27th, 2006 10:56 pm (UTC)
What if a Canada goose and a hummingbird had a baby, which was then raised in a turtle village by a family of gorillas?

1. Biologists everywhere weep, develop nervous tics, and take up careers in accounting or religion.

2. Comedians everywhere resign, variously citing, "Too easy. Where's the challenge?" and "Goddamn it, when Mother Nature is funnier than I am, that's when I go into politics."

3. There is a mass migration of National Geographic photographers so severe that they ravage the film, battery, and native guide resources of three countries.

4. Fred Phelps blames fags. George W. Bush blames terrorists. Bloggers blame, variously: Fred Phelps, George W. Bush, gun nuts, liberals, the Catholic Church, video games, the youth of today, the liberal media, the reactionary media, the media in general, perverts, and George Lucas.

6. Cute Overload deems the hellspawn offspring "not cute." A flamewar begins.

7. The internets explode. Service is restored 19 hours later, but nine months later there is a vast upsurge in babies born. It becomes known as the "Day We Had to Make Our Own Porn Baby Boom."

In other words, basically business as usual. Why do you ask?

This may be the sort of fan I am as well, now that I think about it.

Okay, but when TV comedians hold all our country's major offices, you will be to blame. Wait. I mean thank. You will be to thank.

Also: omfg a recording of a boy singing "Son of a Preacher Man".

It brings joy to all who hear it. At least, if there's anyone who isn't rendered joyful by this song, I don't want to meet that person.
Tara: icon slashelementalv on September 27th, 2006 10:47 pm (UTC)
tried to eat the safe banana: I sleep with computers.thefourthvine on September 28th, 2006 01:12 am (UTC)
Yay! Thank you!

*adds to del.icio.us*
Katie M.katie_m on September 27th, 2006 11:00 pm (UTC)
One thing I found interesting, reading the comments to your previous post, was the extent to which other people defined "fannish" very differently than I would. I mean, I'm still very fond of, say, Buffy. I have some people I interact with basically because we were once Buffy fans, and I'll watch Buffy vids, and maybe even read a Buffy story or two, but I wouldn't say I was in Buffy fandom anymore. I got the impression a lot of the people responding to that poll would say I was, though.
tried to eat the safe banana: TFV bluethefourthvine on September 28th, 2006 01:15 am (UTC)
Oh, Katie, that is next week's meta. Do you always have to be ahead of the class?

But, yeah, one of the interesting things - well, I was trying to explain this to someone, and I got all metaphorical and started talking about how there are boundaries between being fannish and merely liking something, and being fannish and being our kind of fannish, but it's a blurry boundary, and there are no maps except one made by a blind geometrist, and basically it's just living proof the geopolitical applicability of Heisenberg.

Plus, I get the sense that some people don't want to admit they aren't in fandoms any more. Which I can understand - it's tough - but it adds another layer of uncertainty to the whole topic.
(no subject) - katie_m on September 29th, 2006 04:06 am (UTC) (Expand)
What the Monkey?svilleficrecs on September 27th, 2006 11:05 pm (UTC)
Um, I think there's one point where she switches pronouns in this song, but for the most part she doesn't

http://download.yousendit.com/D191FEF535D07157

"Heard it through the grapevine" by The Slits
tried to eat the safe banana: Musicthefourthvine on September 28th, 2006 01:16 am (UTC)
Thank you! Man, I should totally have shared my love with my friends list before now, because y'all turn out to be an excellent source of genderswapped songs.

Upon reflection, I should not be surprised. The genderswap is a very fannish kind of song, isn't it?
Mara: Woobie-fumarag on September 27th, 2006 11:11 pm (UTC)
Yes, Master! My poll is here :D
tried to eat the safe banana: Emotionthefourthvine on September 28th, 2006 01:19 am (UTC)
Yay! Thank you!

Also, I will see your woobie-fu icon and raise you one "emotion is just a word in the dictionary" icon. I believe we have achieved a near-perfect balance of emo and anti-emo. Of course, if our icons come too close together, they will obliterate this post, but we love to live on the razor's edge, right?
(no subject) - marag on September 28th, 2006 01:28 am (UTC) (Expand)
skylark_ceeskylark_cee on September 27th, 2006 11:15 pm (UTC)
Do you have the Me First and the Gimme Gimme's cover of 'Nothing Compares' or Rufus Wainwright singing 'Art Teacher'? Let me know and I'll upload it for you. Someday you need to do a genderswapped song post and share the wealth!
dirigibly_yoursdirigibly_yours on September 28th, 2006 12:21 am (UTC)
well, i don't . . . *winning smile*
(no subject) - thefourthvine on September 28th, 2006 01:21 am (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - skylark_cee on September 28th, 2006 05:58 am (UTC) (Expand)
crimsonquills on September 27th, 2006 11:17 pm (UTC)
I ran across the fan archetypes poll in malnpudl's journal and thought it was cool, so I decided to run it in mine. The entry is here: http://crimsonquills.livejournal.com/396830.html

Good luck with the meta!
tried to eat the safe banana: I sleep with computers.thefourthvine on September 28th, 2006 01:24 am (UTC)
Thank you! (Also, wow. malnpudl is the best pimp ever. I should give her a cookie or something. An imaginary cookie, maybe.)

Did you take the poll here? Because I'll be using that for comparison purposes, so if you didn't and you decide to now, you too will be in line for an imaginary cookie. (Another one, since obviously you'd get one for doing the poll, too.)
(no subject) - crimsonquills on September 29th, 2006 02:20 am (UTC) (Expand)
J. M. Torresjmtorres on September 27th, 2006 11:17 pm (UTC)
My poll.

I have decided that I am a hydra: cut off a fandom and three more spring up in its place. This is the best metaphor I can think of to address the fact that I hang onto some fandoms forever and then some of them do die. Also that I end up with a lot of them.
tried to eat the safe banana: Suspicious owlthefourthvine on September 28th, 2006 01:25 am (UTC)
Thank you!

I really, really like the hydra archetype, and it works for you much better than magpie, which is what I called you. (Well. It seemed like the best fit. But I agonized over it.)
(no subject) - jmtorres on September 28th, 2006 01:30 am (UTC) (Expand)
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tried to eat the safe banana: I sleep with computers.thefourthvine on September 28th, 2006 04:36 am (UTC)
Thank you!
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scrigglescriggle on September 27th, 2006 11:36 pm (UTC)
malnpudl told me to do it. The Poll
tried to eat the safe banana: TFV bluethefourthvine on September 28th, 2006 04:37 am (UTC)
Thank you!

And, man, malnpudl is the Best Pimp Ever. I should have her on retainer or something.
Katheryn: anya_girl_scoutstallulah71 on September 28th, 2006 12:48 am (UTC)
Just to give the girls some representation, I give you this, which includes:

Tori Amos covers of

'97 Bonnie & Clyde - This is just creepy.
Angie - Live version with a long intro.
Father Figure - See above.
I'm On Fire - This is pretty hot.(No Pun)
London Girls - This one is fun.

Kate Bush - Rocket Man

Marlene Dietrich - I've Grown Accustomed to Her Face(Yes the song from My Fair Lady and yes, Marlene Dietrich. I'm that gay.)
tried to eat the safe banana: TFV brownthefourthvine on September 28th, 2006 04:53 am (UTC)
Oh, cool! Thank you.

These will be wonderful, especially Tori Amos singing Father Figure. (I was scarred forever by the one Clark/Lex Father Figure vid, so it will have a special resonance for me.)

Yes the song from My Fair Lady and yes, Marlene Dietrich. I'm that gay.

Excellent. So am I.
(no subject) - tallulah71 on September 28th, 2006 05:13 am (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - retrofit88 on September 28th, 2006 04:23 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - tallulah71 on September 29th, 2006 02:49 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - brown_betty on September 28th, 2006 04:25 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Loz: John Simmlozenger8 on September 28th, 2006 12:55 am (UTC)
malnpudl is a good pimp :D

I've done it here.
luna: bluestangleofthorns on September 28th, 2006 01:09 am (UTC)
I can't help with your particular CD, but I too have a total thing for genderswapped covers of the type you mean! So cool.
tried to eat the safe banana: Musicthefourthvine on September 28th, 2006 04:54 am (UTC)
At this point, I am anticipating doing a gargantuan Genderswapped Covers download post. (And if you want the CD in the meantime, well, check out malnpudl's comment. She's a skilled pimp and music provider.)
(no subject) - tangleofthorns on September 28th, 2006 01:35 pm (UTC) (Expand)