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25 April 2008 @ 08:14 pm
Poll: Crossovers, Oh My  
Recently, I was moderately flabbergasted to come upon a Highlander x Yami no Matsuei crossover. I had one of those moments of staring blankly at the computer screen, trying to figure out if I had experienced a sudden linguistic disconnect, and maybe in this language "Highlander x Yami no Matsuei crossover" actually meant "now we all get cake" or something, because surely such a thing, defined as I understood it, was totally impossible.

And then I read it, and realized that, no, it isn't impossible, and I was forced once again to reflect on the fact that Highlander seems to be a fandom that is just very open to crossovers. I know that's partly because, hey, you've got 5,000 years of mostly unfilled Methos backstory, and who is to say he didn't pick up a young Christopher Keller in a gay bar? He could have! He could also have spent fifteen years traveling around with Doctor Who. I mean, it's not like he'd necessarily bring either of those things up in conversation. But also, just, the Highlander universe seems to be unusually smooshy - it is totally willing to cozy up to, maybe even move in with, other canons, as I'm reminded every time the HL newsletter comes out and most of the new stories are crossovers.

Naturally, I got to wondering: what other fandoms are particularly crossover-friendly? And that led, inevitably, to thoughts of those fandoms that are much, much harder to work into crossovers. Which led to thoughts of AUs, which in turn took me to a terrifying meta place, and Best Beloved had to come talk me down. "How about a poll?" she said. "Polls are fun! And, also, you can probably finish one before you fall asleep." (Whereas with actual meta - at the rate I'm currently finishing stuff, I'd have it ready for posting in, um, 2012 or thereabouts, assuming no delays for rain.)

So perhaps you would like to write my meta for me? I offer ticky boxes as incentive!

Which fandoms are especially amenable to crossovers?

Angel and Buffy
4(1.2%)
Anime (sorry, but there's no room in the poll maker to divide it out)
0(0.0%)
Bandom
2(0.6%)
Comics (DCU, Marvel, maybe Jack Chick)
3(0.9%)
Doctor Who (new) and Torchwood
9(2.7%)
due South
0(0.0%)
Harry Potter
1(0.3%)
Highlander
3(0.9%)
Lord of the Rings
0(0.0%)
Pirates of the Caribbean
0(0.0%)
Smallville
0(0.0%)
Sports Night
0(0.0%)
Star Trek
1(0.3%)
SGA and SG1
3(0.9%)
Supernatural
1(0.3%)

TFV, you totally failed to include the BEST FANDOM EVER for crossovers, and it is:

Which fandoms are especially crossover-resistant?

Angel and Buffy
0(0.0%)
Anime
0(0.0%)
Bandom
1(0.3%)
Comics (DCU, Marvel, etc.)
1(0.3%)
Doctor Who (new) and Torchwood
1(0.3%)
due South
2(0.7%)
Harry Potter
4(1.4%)
Highlander
0(0.0%)
Lord of the Rings
52(17.7%)
Pirates of the Caribbean
4(1.4%)
Smallville
1(0.3%)
Sports Night
9(3.1%)
Star Trek
4(1.4%)
SGA and SG1
1(0.3%)
Supernatural
0(0.0%)

There is a fandom so resistant to crossovers that 25% of writers who attempt it do not survive, and it is:

Do fandoms that are good for crossovers tend to be good for AUs (and ones bad for crossovers tend to be bad for AUs)?

Yes, in general way, though of course generalizations lead to insomnia and dropsy.
150(53.6%)
No, in a general way, although a counter-example might appear at any time.
73(26.1%)
This is too complicated a topic to reduce to mere radio buttons. Only a comment can encompass my thoughts on the matter.
57(20.4%)

The head-splittingest crossover imaginable (two fandoms only!) is:

My secret dream crossover of insanity (two fandoms only!) is:

 
 
 
giandujakissgiandujakiss on April 26th, 2008 03:24 am (UTC)
Anything where the characters live indefinite life spans or travel in time is very crossover friendly.

But Jesus Christ, Quantum Leap!! Sam could be anyone. You could rewrite every single episode of anything and say Sam was there.
tried to eat the safe banana: All the bees are ded.thefourthvine on April 26th, 2008 03:43 am (UTC)
Sadly, I know nothing of Quantum Leap (although Best Beloved has just given me a briefing, but apparently she is still bitter about the ending). But it sounds like a fabulous crossover fandom for sure. (And you're so right about time travel and immortality - they practically beg for crossovers.)
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peeps wanna see peeps boink: crossovers kick assmusesfool on April 26th, 2008 03:26 am (UTC)
Man, I love crossovers. In fact, I tend to take them as challenges - the crazier they appear, the more I want to be able to write them, and write them well. (See my O11/LotR idea in the poll.)

I think some universes are harder, but if you match them with a more porous 'verse, you can make it work. Or if you just do a sort of fusion/crossover, like putting the Winchesters 500 years in the future in the Firefly 'verse, or making them part of the Colonial Fleet on BSG, etc.

Also, it's harder to match up two 'verses with differing magical systems, but we've never let that stop us. Also, I can't believe I forgot X-Files. like HP and BtVS and SPN, X-Files is great for crossovers because all the weird stuff is supposed to be a secret, so you can always handwave stuff away as govt. conspiracy.
tried to eat the safe banana: Cute but poutythefourthvine on April 26th, 2008 03:45 am (UTC)
You realize that if you don't now WRITE the O11/LotR story, I will never smile again. No pressure or anything. Just my whole happiness at stake.

I love crossovers, too, although it took me a while to get to that place, because I started in LotR fandom so virtually all the crossovers I read did not work at all.

And I actually had X-Files in the original version of this poll (curse LJ and its poll option limits!), but I thought it would probably be crossover-resistant, actually. *has learned something*
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pentapuspentapus on April 26th, 2008 03:29 am (UTC)
Ok, I just had to comment because it has long been my policy that Methos is THE crossover character. I mean, he could plausibly show up in almost any fandom. Bonus points if the story is told from the non-Methos point of view and if that POV passes through the story oblivious to Methos' less than mortal qualities. I have no idea about any other fandoms, but I have always dreamed happily of a world where methos crossovers were their own fandom. XD
because you're the greatest, ted!: ice cream makes undead mist girls happyholli on April 26th, 2008 03:35 am (UTC)
I have had long and very pleasant conversations about how Methos, Jack Harkness, and various other long-lived folks should form some sort of club. Or at least make out a lot.
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tried to eat the safe banana: Wombat OTPthefourthvine on April 26th, 2008 03:52 am (UTC)
MY SECRET PLAN IS WORKING. I AM PLEASED.

(Also, I have Appetite thoughts. FYI.)
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Domenika Marzionemiss_porcupine on April 26th, 2008 03:35 am (UTC)
I tend to abhor crossovers, mostly because of Talking Dog Syndrome (it's not what he says, but that he says at all) -- crossovers tend to expend all of their energy on making the fandoms line up and have very little left over for the actual plot. The crossovers that I've liked are ones that match up the fandoms well and then get on with the business of the story in its own right.

Highlander/historical fiction can work for obvious reasons. Once upon a time, I read a nifty Sharpe/Methos story that involved a great deal of sitting around in pubs through the years.

Police/special agent procedurals mash up well with extra-normal activities. Supernatural has made it even easier by showing just how screwed up Sam and Dean look to the authorities, but there's also been SG-1/NCIS, which is the military version of the same pairing, but with added rules and regulations and bureaucracy.

Of course, I come from comics, where every few years or so DC and Marvel decide to invade each other's universe and wackiness ensues....
tried to eat the safe banana: I sleep with computers.thefourthvine on April 26th, 2008 04:02 am (UTC)
I used to hate crossovers, but that was mostly because I started in a very crossover-resistant fandom, so I kind of decided they could never, ever work. But I have come around! Just, it has to be done well.

Highlander/historical fiction can work for obvious reasons.

Oh, totally, although many times that works so well it doesn't feel like a crossover at all.

Of course, I come from comics, where every few years or so DC and Marvel decide to invade each other's universe and wackiness ensues.

Crossovers are just one of the many things I think fandom handles better than creators. Although I love the idea of Amalgam Comics. Dark Claw, OMG! Sparrow! *swoons*
because you're the greatest, ted!: doggone it i'm a super hero!holli on April 26th, 2008 03:40 am (UTC)
I am almost always skeptical of the kinds of crossovers where I'm expected to believe the characters have all been sharing a universe all along, and have just failed to notice-- I call them "Giles went to Hogwarts crossovers" because, well, if Giles had gone to Hogwarts, wouldn't he have mentioned it before this story? It takes a really, really deft hand to get me to like this sort of crossover. And usually it takes so much time to get the universes lined up that the story seems like a bit of an afterthought.

However, I am *extremely* fond of the swirly-portal-dumps-the-characters-somewhere style of crossover, or the ones where there's some perfunctory explanation at the start-- magic spell, lab accident, TARDIS-- and then they get on with the story. Also, fusions can be really neat-- where characters from one 'verse take up new roles in a new 'verse.
tried to eat the safe banana: Black umbrellathefourthvine on April 26th, 2008 04:08 am (UTC)
I am almost always skeptical of the kinds of crossovers where I'm expected to believe the characters have all been sharing a universe all along, and have just failed to notice

See, it works for me if, like, Jim and Blair have to liaise with some cops from Chicago, who turn out to be named Ray and Fraser. It's a lot harder if the worlds don't blend well, though - HP and Buffy would be a good example.

and then they get on with the story

The "for reasons that don't need exploring at this juncture, John Dorian is about to encounter Benton Fraser" style of crossover! I love those, though I think I love fusions best of all.

Obviously, I'm easy. At least when it comes to crossovers.
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Mal: gibbs/dinozzo by cellimalnpudl on April 26th, 2008 03:51 am (UTC)
Law enforcement shows tend to lend themselves very nicely to crossovers with many other present-time fandoms. Even supernatural shenanigans could come to the attention of the cops (of whatever flavor) and make for a natural crossover.

In fact, if anyone would like to write more NCIS crossovers, I'd thank them ever so kindly. *smiles winningly*
cathexys: krycek1 (by phantomas)cathexys on April 26th, 2008 03:59 am (UTC)
Yes, most procedurals make nice inoffensive xovers, mostly because you don't have to try to merge two mythologies.

But they tend to be temporally limited (i.e., how do you cross Professionals with Stargate, for example?). The best xovers in these terms are the immortal ones, vamps and immortals, and the time jumpers, the doctor and Sam :)

Plus, there are always little black dresses that easily slide into other fandoms and then there's always the crossover that you never thought would work and then it does (some of my favorites are Martha's TS/SG1/AtS epic where the mythologies actually mesh and Isis's smart HP/SGA one, where the Patronus comes in handy in the Pegasus galaxy :)
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Stillanestillane on April 26th, 2008 03:54 am (UTC)
I am kind of embarrassingly lacking in critical reading skills when it comes to crossovers. Provided the writing itself is above a remedial level and the characters have not taken a break to get high (unless, of course, they do that normally - yes, Entourage, I'm looking at you), I'll merrily skip into anything. Yes, this has ended tragically more than once. On the other hand, though... Methos! In space! Mwahaha.

Has Methos ever met Spike, I wonder? House on fire, indeed. *g*

My secret crossover wish of greatest fervency is not as crazy as the one I listed above, though. In my heart of hearts, I really just want a well done Good Omens/Supernatural outing, preferably one in which Sam and Adam commiserate on the whole Antichrist gig. Because it could be hilarious and bittersweet by turns. Yep. This would make my year.
peeps wanna see peeps boink: but not in a gay waymusesfool on April 26th, 2008 04:09 am (UTC)
This is a cute SPN/GO crossover where Adam gives Sam some instructions on being the Antichrist. It's not long enough, really, but it gets the idea across.

The SPN/GO xover I want involves Dean/Pepper shenanigans with a lot of comedy and all the tapes in the Impala ending up as Queen tapes.

One day I will remember to close my html tags. Sigh.

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Feonixriftfeonixrift on April 26th, 2008 04:16 am (UTC)
Honestly, file that one under "amand_r can write anything".
tried to eat the safe banana: Emotionthefourthvine on April 26th, 2008 04:31 am (UTC)
I'm pretty sure Highlander x Yami no Matsuei breaks laws of the known universe, though. Do we know for sure that amand_r isn't a secret master of the universe or something?
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Feonixriftfeonixrift on April 26th, 2008 04:18 am (UTC)
And oh dear... I have to change my answer, based on something someone else entered: Highlander / Princess Bride! Must be written!
tried to eat the safe banana: Calamity Physicsthefourthvine on April 26th, 2008 03:10 pm (UTC)
Highlander / Princess Bride! Must be written!

Oh, my poor poor brain. I should have known posting this poll would lead to my neurons screaming for mercy. (That said, I can kind of see how it would work, and...NO. NO.)
Vass: Crossoversvassilissa on April 26th, 2008 04:30 am (UTC)
I have an appropriate icon!
When I was about eight, I wrote 'The My Little Ponies Meet The Silver Brumby'. Even then, it was brain-breaking. "I am Thowra!"

My brain, having been given the task "generate improbably awful crossover scenarios," is having trouble disengaging.

Dykes To Watch Out For / Jane Austen
House MD / Sue Barton series of nurse novels
Trainspotting (which I haven't seen, but whatever) / Thomas The Tank Engine
Archie and Mehitabel / Yes, Minister
Poirot / Boston Legal
Nero Wolfe / The Naked Chef

For a more difficult parlour game, try thinking of a fandom that would *not* cross over with Torchwood, including the tenuous sort of Torchwood which is Jack Harkness's millennia of backstory all over time and space. (Would Jack fuck a Care Bear? Definitely. Would I read that fic? Yes, I would.) Even the notoriously difficult Lymond canon rolls over happily (as would Lymond himself. Well, maybe not *happily*, this is Lymond, after all. About 4200 pages of canon, and I think he's happy maybe for three of them.)
Olna Jenndormouse_in_tea on April 26th, 2008 05:29 am (UTC)
Re: I have an appropriate icon!
House. . . Sue Barton . . . ow, that was my HEAD.

(aka - *applauds!*)
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I am never merry when I hear sweet musicpaper_tzipporah on April 26th, 2008 04:32 am (UTC)
Do fandoms that are good for crossovers tend to be good for AUs (and ones bad for crossovers tend to be bad for AUs)?

Here's the thing: I think the Stargate universe is GREAT for crossovers with all sorts of things (my favorite being Buffyverse/SG-1, but then Buffy goes with EVERYTHING). And SGA is especially good for AUs -- there are TONS of brilliant AU SGA fics out there. And I'm fairly resistant to AUs, generally, even when they're done well. But I love a lot of SGA AUs.

Buffyverse, though. I mean, you can do Buffy crossovers with ANYTHING, and people DO. I spend a lot of time on Twisting the Hellmouth. EVERYTHING. Except my fandoms, which are nonexistent. But I've NEVER seen a Buffy AU that I liked. Ever.

So I don't think there's any correlation.

Also, for the people who think BSG doesn't make for good crossover material, I've read some GREAT BSG crossover/fusion fics. Just saying. In fact, I was just reading a BSG/Firefly fic the other day that was absolutely BRILLIANT.
tried to eat the safe banana: Batgirl in glassesthefourthvine on April 26th, 2008 06:22 pm (UTC)
But I love a lot of SGA AUs.

I firmly believe that SGA is one of the most AU-friendly of all fandoms. It practically begs for AUs. And, sadly, I have a whole meta on why I think that is (and why other fandoms, like Oz, are so very resistant to AUs).

But I've NEVER seen a Buffy AU that I liked.

And this makes sense to me. If you take Rodney, John, Ronon, and Teyla out of their world, the characteristics you have to maintain for them to be themselves are all situation-independent: like, Rodney can still be totally himself if he's a 14th-century farmer or a Watcher or Q for James Bond (or a sock or a Girl Scout cookie). But Buffy - if she's not the Slayer anymore, who the hell is she? Someone I don't even recognize, usually.

So I don't think there's any correlation.

This was my conclusion as well, actually, and I was surprised to see that so many people disagreed with me. People! I am RIGHT! I may have to produce meta to argue my case, for fear that others will persist in being wrong on the internet!

In fact, I was just reading a BSG/Firefly fic the other day that was absolutely BRILLIANT.

Those are two of the fandoms that are the hardest to get if you don't know the canon at all. I've never managed to understand a single story in either. So I'm glad you found such a brilliant beast, but sad I can't demand a link to share in the joy.
quilloriquillori on April 26th, 2008 04:34 am (UTC)
Long-lived or time traveling characters make the practical side of crossovers so easy the writer has plenty of energy to spare for hitting the right mood and themes. Generally, though, I don't think a practical match in location and date is as important (after all, AU is a possibility) as the two shows having a complementary 'feel', with thematic consistencies and fictional universes that work in much the same way - not so much in questions like 'does magic work' as what sort of behaviour counts as good and the way stories are likely to end. If they don't match like that, you either have to go for humour, or have one set of characters yanked from their proper setting in way that's frequently unsatisfactory. Of course, you don't need a perfect match - as long as the matching part is relevant to the story being told, and is a good enough match for each fandom that if it weren't a crossover it would fall within the acceptable limits of interpretation, it should work.

Mind you, I tend to assume most crossovers are quite possible, because I mostly only read crossovers by authors I know and trust.
Gummo Bergman's "Silent Strawberries"marginaliana on April 26th, 2008 02:55 pm (UTC)
the two shows having a complementary 'feel', with thematic consistencies and fictional universes that work in much the same way - not so much in questions like 'does magic work' as what sort of behaviour counts as good and the way stories are likely to end

Oh, now that's interesting, because I feel like I tend to be more interested in crossovers where there's either a) an unexpected congruence of atmosphere (like, I wouldn't have thought to say that the two fandoms were similar in that way until I read the fic) or b) a significant difference of atmosphere (wherein one side of the matchup faces a really foreign situation). If they fit too obviously together, I get bored.
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Macadamanaity: M*A*S*Hmacadamanaity on April 26th, 2008 04:48 am (UTC)
shrieking_ell Wished for James Bond/Dr Who. Oddly enough, did so too, last month, and my friend apatheia_jane wrote it for me here. I love the internets.

I have a serious crossover problem. People pose unlikely crossovers at me and my brain latches on and won't let go. To date, I've done Angels in America/House, 30 Rock/Buffy the Vampire Slayer, The Dark is Rising/M*A*S*H, Oceans 11/Harry Potter, and Oceans 11/Boston Legal. Sometimes I think there is something really quite wrong with my brain... ::sigh::
St. Rougarougogoangelgunboy on April 26th, 2008 06:58 am (UTC)
the dark is rising x m*a*s*h? you may be my new hero.
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Susan the Neon Nurseneonnurse on April 26th, 2008 05:14 am (UTC)
I came THIS CLOSE >< one time to writing a story where Snape falls afoul of a messed-up Portkey. He comes staggering up on a tropical beach, soaking wet and therefore about sixty times more pissed off than usual, severely startling a skinny, dopey Muggle in a white hat. Turns out he's not the only one who doesn't like being here and wants to get home. Plus one of the other six Muggles living on this island is also called Professor. Hijinks would probably have ensued.
St. Rougarougogoangelgunboy on April 26th, 2008 06:58 am (UTC)
YES OH GOD YES.
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