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20 February 2009 @ 10:15 pm
[Poll] Moar Science!  
A number of people have made excellent points about the poll, round one. First, obviously it was wrong wrong wrong of me to combine Torchwood and Doctor Who, and against the nature of SCIENCE. Second, I left out a number of fandoms that clearly needed to be subjected to the keen-eyed scrutiny of SCIENCE. (Thanks to everyone who suggested one, and I tried to grab them all. If I missed one, um, sorry!)

So, behind the cut: yet more science, for your scientific convenience!



Remember, one = low low quality (fanfiction.net would be ashamed to host it!) or low low slashiness (rulers dream of being so straight!). Ten = super high quality (earth-shattering genius, like Shakespeare except BETTER!) or super high slashiness (time spent canonically sucking cock or fingering each other could only reduce the overall slashy quotient!).

And, again, vote based on what you think. Never mind fandom's opinion! I want to look into your heart, your soul, your brain. Or, rather, SCIENCE does.

And thank you. With your help, we will at last be able to plot our loves on a really shiny chart. I think that's a dream we can all embrace.

Poll #1352948 Science, Take Two

Doctor Who (new): how slashy?

Mean: 5.62 Median: 6 Std. Dev 1.81
1
1(0.4%)
2
8(3.5%)
3
22(9.6%)
4
38(16.7%)
5
30(13.2%)
6
55(24.1%)
7
39(17.1%)
8
25(11.0%)
9
7(3.1%)
10
3(1.3%)

Doctor Who (new): canon writing quality?

Mean: 6.96 Median: 7 Std. Dev 1.55
1
0(0.0%)
2
0(0.0%)
3
8(3.6%)
4
11(4.9%)
5
17(7.6%)
6
33(14.7%)
7
70(31.2%)
8
54(24.1%)
9
24(10.7%)
10
7(3.1%)

Torchwood: how slashy?

Mean: 9.45 Median: 10 Std. Dev 0.97
1
0(0.0%)
2
0(0.0%)
3
0(0.0%)
4
1(0.4%)
5
0(0.0%)
6
5(2.1%)
7
6(2.5%)
8
19(8.0%)
9
48(20.2%)
10
159(66.8%)

Torchwood: canon writing quality?

Mean: 5.11 Median: 5 Std. Dev 1.92
1
1(0.4%)
2
16(6.9%)
3
38(16.3%)
4
43(18.5%)
5
35(15.0%)
6
44(18.9%)
7
30(12.9%)
8
15(6.4%)
9
7(3.0%)
10
4(1.7%)

Man from U.N.C.L.E.: how slashy?

Mean: 7.47 Median: 8 Std. Dev 1.87
1
1(1.2%)
2
1(1.2%)
3
1(1.2%)
4
0(0.0%)
5
11(12.8%)
6
12(14.0%)
7
10(11.6%)
8
20(23.3%)
9
21(24.4%)
10
9(10.5%)

Man from U.N.C.L.E.: canon writing quality?

Mean: 5.54 Median: 6 Std. Dev 1.44
1
1(1.3%)
2
2(2.6%)
3
5(6.4%)
4
5(6.4%)
5
24(30.8%)
6
18(23.1%)
7
20(25.6%)
8
3(3.8%)
9
0(0.0%)
10
0(0.0%)

Starsky & Hutch (and I take that ampersand is canon): how slashy?

Mean: 8.67 Median: 9 Std. Dev 1.39
1
0(0.0%)
2
1(0.9%)
3
0(0.0%)
4
0(0.0%)
5
3(2.7%)
6
3(2.7%)
7
10(8.8%)
8
27(23.9%)
9
31(27.4%)
10
38(33.6%)

Starsky & Hutch: canon writing quality?

Mean: 5.56 Median: 6 Std. Dev 1.73
1
0(0.0%)
2
5(5.1%)
3
9(9.1%)
4
9(9.1%)
5
21(21.2%)
6
30(30.3%)
7
16(16.2%)
8
4(4.0%)
9
2(2.0%)
10
3(3.0%)

The Professionals: how slashy?

Mean: 7.62 Median: 8 Std. Dev 1.59
1
0(0.0%)
2
0(0.0%)
3
2(3.1%)
4
0(0.0%)
5
5(7.8%)
6
5(7.8%)
7
15(23.4%)
8
18(28.1%)
9
12(18.8%)
10
7(10.9%)

The Professionals: canon writing quality?

Mean: 6.33 Median: 6 Std. Dev 1.59
1
0(0.0%)
2
0(0.0%)
3
1(1.6%)
4
7(11.5%)
5
12(19.7%)
6
14(23.0%)
7
12(19.7%)
8
10(16.4%)
9
3(4.9%)
10
2(3.3%)

Star Wars 4-6 (original trilogy): how slashy?

Mean: 4.89 Median: 5 Std. Dev 1.89
1
10(4.6%)
2
16(7.4%)
3
23(10.6%)
4
41(18.9%)
5
42(19.4%)
6
42(19.4%)
7
23(10.6%)
8
16(7.4%)
9
4(1.8%)
10
0(0.0%)

Star Wars 4-6 (original trilogy): canon writing quality?

Mean: 6.36 Median: 7 Std. Dev 1.68
1
2(0.9%)
2
3(1.4%)
3
7(3.2%)
4
20(9.3%)
5
27(12.5%)
6
41(19.0%)
7
61(28.2%)
8
41(19.0%)
9
11(5.1%)
10
3(1.4%)

Star Wars: The Phantom Menace: how slashy?

Mean: 6.70 Median: 7 Std. Dev 2.02
1
6(3.1%)
2
3(1.5%)
3
9(4.6%)
4
6(3.1%)
5
22(11.3%)
6
24(12.4%)
7
46(23.7%)
8
49(25.3%)
9
21(10.8%)
10
8(4.1%)

Star Wars: The Phantom Menace: canon writing quality?

Mean: 3.52 Median: 3 Std. Dev 1.76
1
22(11.4%)
2
42(21.8%)
3
41(21.2%)
4
35(18.1%)
5
25(13.0%)
6
16(8.3%)
7
8(4.1%)
8
3(1.6%)
9
1(0.5%)
10
0(0.0%)

X-Files: how slashy?

Mean: 5.66 Median: 6 Std. Dev 2.00
1
7(4.0%)
2
9(5.2%)
3
7(4.0%)
4
18(10.4%)
5
33(19.1%)
6
38(22.0%)
7
31(17.9%)
8
24(13.9%)
9
0(0.0%)
10
6(3.5%)

X-Files: canon writing quality?

Mean: 7.01 Median: 7 Std. Dev 1.51
1
0(0.0%)
2
0(0.0%)
3
3(1.8%)
4
6(3.5%)
5
19(11.1%)
6
28(16.4%)
7
52(30.4%)
8
35(20.5%)
9
21(12.3%)
10
7(4.1%)

Sports Night: how slashy?

Mean: 7.66 Median: 8 Std. Dev 1.60
1
0(0.0%)
2
2(1.3%)
3
1(0.7%)
4
1(0.7%)
5
9(6.0%)
6
16(10.7%)
7
34(22.8%)
8
42(28.2%)
9
24(16.1%)
10
20(13.4%)

Sports Night: canon writing quality?

Mean: 8.31 Median: 9 Std. Dev 1.50
1
0(0.0%)
2
1(0.7%)
3
1(0.7%)
4
3(2.1%)
5
3(2.1%)
6
5(3.5%)
7
16(11.3%)
8
41(28.9%)
9
42(29.6%)
10
30(21.1%)

The O.C.: how slashy?

Mean: 7.16 Median: 7 Std. Dev 1.69
1
0(0.0%)
2
0(0.0%)
3
1(1.4%)
4
3(4.1%)
5
12(16.4%)
6
7(9.6%)
7
14(19.2%)
8
24(32.9%)
9
4(5.5%)
10
8(11.0%)

The O.C.: canon writing quality?

Mean: 5.39 Median: 6 Std. Dev 1.65
1
1(1.4%)
2
2(2.8%)
3
7(9.9%)
4
11(15.5%)
5
14(19.7%)
6
16(22.5%)
7
13(18.3%)
8
7(9.9%)
9
0(0.0%)
10
0(0.0%)

Hikaru no Go: how slashy?

Mean: 8.29 Median: 9 Std. Dev 1.72
1
0(0.0%)
2
0(0.0%)
3
2(2.9%)
4
0(0.0%)
5
6(8.7%)
6
2(2.9%)
7
6(8.7%)
8
12(17.4%)
9
24(34.8%)
10
17(24.6%)

Hikaru no Go: canon writing quality?

Mean: 8.00 Median: 8 Std. Dev 1.80
1
0(0.0%)
2
0(0.0%)
3
1(1.5%)
4
0(0.0%)
5
7(10.3%)
6
7(10.3%)
7
12(17.6%)
8
9(13.2%)
9
12(17.6%)
10
20(29.4%)
 
 
 
pucklingpuckling on February 21st, 2009 07:28 am (UTC)
SCIENCE \o/!
Pouncerthepouncer on February 21st, 2009 07:47 am (UTC)
X-Files was really hard to judge with regard to writing quality! They varied wildly over the run of the series -- sometimes excellent, sometimes abysmal. And the mytharc made no sense, and most of the slashy bits involved Mulder/Krycek. Oh, X-Files.

I am also amused at the wild spread currently in place over original Star Wars slashiness. I suspect that has something to do with how young many were the first time they saw it.
Milady: Fandom touchesmilady1844 on February 21st, 2009 07:57 am (UTC)
I totally agree about the original Star Wars. I saw it when it first came out & I was 11. Slash wasn't even on my radar. In fact, I cannot look at the originals with slash glasses, I've tried and I just can't.

Ironically it was TPM that got me into slash in the first place. I sat through that first movie thinking, "They are so doing it!" about Obi & Qui.

Edited at 2009-02-21 07:58 am (UTC)
(no subject) - erjika on February 21st, 2009 08:05 am (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - ladysorka on February 21st, 2009 04:26 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - jacquez on February 21st, 2009 04:31 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - strangerian on February 21st, 2009 06:35 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - dossier on February 26th, 2009 02:38 am (UTC) (Expand)
Diana: Long Shadow -- Anakinbutterfly on February 21st, 2009 08:07 am (UTC)
Sadness. Cannot weigh in on my love for Anakin/Obi-Wan in RotS (never got into Qui-Gon/Obi-Wan). Canonical love declaration!

Thanks for separating Who and Torchwood!

Edited at 2009-02-21 08:07 am (UTC)
cimness on February 22nd, 2009 03:05 pm (UTC)
I'm pretty sure that TPM fandom covers the whole prequel trilogy (maybe a clarification/further poll is in order) and probably a fair number of those votes are due to Anakin/Obi-Wan slashers. I know that fandom was pretty healthy for a while, so you can hardly be the only one.
(no subject) - butterfly on February 22nd, 2009 03:16 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Vera: teyla shinycopracat on February 21st, 2009 08:25 am (UTC)
Star Wars! Phantom Menace! Oh, the results make me ROFL!
Mal: m+m=/ by nialla42malnpudl on February 21st, 2009 09:00 am (UTC)
Damn. If I'd known there was going to be a Round 2, I'd have made a case for Alias Smith and Jones. Now there were two boys who luuurrrrrved each other. *g* And the writing has held up surprisingly well, all things considered.
A Fandom Butterfly: HnG - Hikaru pastelchinawolf on February 21st, 2009 09:27 am (UTC)
:D I think Hikaru no Go may just blast everything else out of the sky of being well written AND slashy, eh?

I just rewatched the anime. It is SO GOOD.
nocturne in black and goldskyfalling on February 21st, 2009 12:10 pm (UTC)
I seem to have lost all my Hikago icons somewhere along the way, but... *fistbump of solidarity!* That series makes me so happy. I am partial to the manga, but it did get to me first. *g*
(no subject) - chinawolf on February 21st, 2009 05:05 pm (UTC) (Expand)
macey muse: Sai ^_^ - hikagomacey_muse on February 21st, 2009 10:06 am (UTC)
Hikago's beating The Pros in voter numbers! \o/
perched precariously on the edge of normality: WTF anyway? [please]vampirespider on February 21st, 2009 12:04 pm (UTC)
I get that Phantom Menace is nobody's favourite Star Wars film, but worse writing than Torchwood? Really?
laura: star warsjacquez on February 21st, 2009 04:34 pm (UTC)
midichlorians! virgin birth!
(no subject) - brown_betty on February 21st, 2009 04:38 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - best_beloved on February 21st, 2009 05:56 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - brown_betty on February 21st, 2009 06:04 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - cimness on February 22nd, 2009 03:02 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - brown_betty on February 22nd, 2009 04:46 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - cimness on February 22nd, 2009 03:00 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - brown_betty on February 22nd, 2009 04:48 pm (UTC) (Expand)
I'm not fluent in your dialect of crazydine on February 21st, 2009 12:32 pm (UTC)
I totes admire your dedication to SCIENCE!
Gummo Bergman's "Silent Strawberries": TW - Bitchy Lesbiansmarginaliana on February 21st, 2009 02:54 pm (UTC)
I am boggled that people think Torchwood is so badly written and Dr Who so well written. I mean, Torchwood has had some stinkers, sure, but hello, Midnight, hello River Song, hello Martha and her total inability to be badass when the Doctor is around. Yeesh.
travels_in_timetravels_in_time on February 21st, 2009 05:29 pm (UTC)
Doctor Who varies widely, and the good is really good. Torchwood is kind of at a constant level of not-really-that-great. (IMHO of course, and with the qualification that I've only seen the first season so far.)

I really liked "Midnight", but that had more to do with the acting than the writing.
(no subject) - butterfly on February 22nd, 2009 03:19 pm (UTC) (Expand)
tofttoft_froggy on February 21st, 2009 03:55 pm (UTC)
I admire your commitment to finding out the SCIENTIFIC TRUTH about this very important issue!
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Gnine: g-defendgnine on February 21st, 2009 06:29 pm (UTC)
Hee, all in the name of Science! Hazaah!

Gotta say though, I think throwing Hikaru no Go in there is kinda gonna majorly screw with results. Really, putting any animanga in there will do that. For one, the writing quality question gets harder to compare, since the majority of people are gonna be working off translations. And then, well, the canon slash levels of anime kinda need their own scale. I mean, there's the copious copious amounts of actual canon slash series, then all the series that don't actually go slash, but the original writers go and do their own fanfic/fan comics that slash their own characters, which begs the question of what's really canon....and um...well...

Sorry to go on, just, as we're being scientific, think it's important to weigh that in when looking at the results.

Edited at 2009-02-21 06:31 pm (UTC)
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cimness on February 22nd, 2009 02:58 pm (UTC)
YAY! I'd be interested in seeing a rare & literary addendum of this that included, oh, The Fast & The Furious, and Sherlock Holmes, and Jeeves & Wooster - that sort of thing. Oh, and maybe Star Trek Voyager and Babylon 5, which are important in the femslash field.