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11 December 2009 @ 11:27 am
[Poll] The fannish baby boom.  
Okay, first, I want to thank everyone for the snowflake cookies. It was awesomely fun, particularly as that's the only snowfall we'll be seeing this year. (I know, I know, everyone who is currently buried in snow is saying, "Oh, my heart bleeds for you." Let me keep my snow fantasies, people!) Also, um, it turns out there's a setting you can have turned on that notifies you when someone you have friended gets a virtual gift. I totally did not know that. And a lot of you got snowflakes. A lot. That comment notification lockup? That was probably partly my fault. I'm still getting backed-up notices about snowflakes.

...I'll fix that setting now.

But that is unrelated to the subject of this poll. Allow me to make a sharp left turn, here.

I'm curious about the fannish baby boom. As in, is it real? Unfortunately, I can't go back in time and run this poll on fans ten years ago, but I can at least be nosy today, and that's good enough for me. Tell me about your next generation!

Poll #1497731 Baby Boom

How many kids do you have?

Mean: 0.29 Median: 0 Std. Dev 0.81

How old are your kids?

Younger than 1 year old.
One to five.
Six to twelve.
Thirteen to eighteen.
Older than eighteen.

Are you expecting a baby right now?

Rather not say

What's your thought about having kids?

I have all I want, thanks. (Even if that number is zero.)
I might want some (or some more) someday.
I definitely want some (or some more) someday.
I want some (or some more), but I probably won't have any.
I'm totally undecided.
It's complicated.

Are fans having more babies now than when you were first in fandom?

Sure seems that way!
I think it's about the same as always.
Overall, I think fans are having fewer babies now.
I have no idea.

And, finally, on a completely unrelated note: how happy are you overall? One is miserable, five is joyful.

Mean: 3.58 Median: 4 Std. Dev 0.79
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peeps wanna see peeps boink: giftmusesfool on December 11th, 2009 07:37 pm (UTC)
I would bet that fans are probably having the same number - or fewer - babies now as ten years ago, but ten years ago, we were mostly on mailing lists, and so wouldn't have discussed it as regularly etc. So it just seems like more, because people post about it to their LJs instead of leaving it for private mail or off-topic list posts.
Pet: NF Birdfly Joyapetslife on December 11th, 2009 08:42 pm (UTC)
*points up* What she said!
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The sanest lunatic you've ever met: duesouth: puffin facesdwolfpup on December 11th, 2009 07:40 pm (UTC)
My fannish circle seems to be having more children since I started LJ in 2003, but my fannish circle is also quite a bit larger than it was. This sure seemed like the year for babies amongst friends and acquaintances, though.

Also, we THINK we want another one, but we want to get through the first two years with this one first before we decide. *g*
tried to eat the safe banana: TFV bluethefourthvine on December 12th, 2009 01:40 am (UTC)
Yeah, I mean, I know more people having babies than I did the first year I was really active in fandom, but then I also know more people. And have access to more friends-locked posts. Plus, the people I met when I came in are older now and more likely to reproduce.

Also, we THINK we want another one, but we want to get through the first two years with this one first before we decide. *g*

That's exactly what we're doing: waiting until he's two to make the choice. I approve of this plan!
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Trinaninasis on December 11th, 2009 07:47 pm (UTC)
I said I have 2 and am expecting, but that might seem misleading since the one that I'm expecting will make #2. But since that's a week away I'm counting him as fully cooked. :)
tried to eat the safe banana: TFV brownthefourthvine on December 12th, 2009 01:44 am (UTC)
You definitely get to count him as a full baby, since even if he decides to pursue an early exit strategy he's still going home with you.

And, awwww, new baby. *hugs* to all four of you.
cathalincathalin on December 11th, 2009 08:01 pm (UTC)
I almost wasn't going to fill this in for time reasons, but saw "have three children" at Zero and just had to, because I like being different or something? *such a ~rebel* (and also because there are too many sane people responding, and obviously you needed someone insane, aka someone with more than two children).

I answered that it seems like more are having kids, but thinking back, I'm not sure if that's true, or it's just that lj brings out the talk about that kind of thing more. Yeah, you know what, I'm thinking it's the latter and maybe my vote should have been "it's the same as always."

If I haven't said recently, I love your musings/polls/recs/side-splittingly funny thoughts/child postings.<333

Edited at 2009-12-11 08:03 pm (UTC)
tried to eat the safe banana: TFV dogtagsthefourthvine on December 12th, 2009 01:47 am (UTC)
I'm glad you filled it in. We need the voice of the crazy! Without it, how can the rest of us all congratulate each other on how sane we are?

Um. No, really, it's wonderful to have three children. I'm sure after a while you just don't even need sleep anymore, right?

If I haven't said recently, I love your musings/polls/recs/side-splittingly funny thoughts/child postings.<333

Awww, thank you. That is awesomely good to hear.
(no subject) - cathalin on December 12th, 2009 07:46 am (UTC) (Expand)
redhedlvrredhedlvr on December 11th, 2009 08:07 pm (UTC)
You need a ticky for grandkids!
tried to eat the safe banana: TFV flowersthefourthvine on December 12th, 2009 01:47 am (UTC)
Obviously the grandbaby boom should be its own poll!
worryingly jolly batmanlabellementeuse on December 11th, 2009 08:07 pm (UTC)
Seems that way to me... but I became fannish when I was around 14, and I'm now 22. So it's not a totally whacky proposition that my circle of fandom, which has usually been within spitting distance of my own age on the whole, would be having more babies now than 8 years ago, without necessarily changing the dynamics of fannish baby-having as a whole.
tried to eat the safe banana: TFV glowythefourthvine on December 12th, 2009 01:49 am (UTC)
Yeah, I do think it's a thing where, the longer we spend in fandom, the more likely our particular fannish friends are to have kids, but it probably doesn't change for fandom as a whole.
suchthefangirlsuchthefangirl on December 11th, 2009 08:10 pm (UTC)
I bet I'm as much to blame as you are for the backlog, I forgot about that feature as well, and it took days for me to be told about all the people that were getting cookies!

I'm old and my kids are old (both in high school this year) but they are not alone. I know lots and lots of people in fandom on both sides of the tables and it seems to me that at a certain age, people start having kids. Or they don't. As you get older, there are more people around with kids. As the fans age they might take some time off to be a parent, but then they are back again when they have more free time. And then their kids get involved. I've seen generations. (my kids might not like Man from UNCLE, due South, or Sports Night, but one is obsessed with Veronica Mars, Buffy and Pushing Daisies, etc.; and the other is equally passionate about Avatar The Last Airbender, Inuyasha and Death Note, etc. It goes on)
tried to eat the safe banana: TFV Katamari Damacythefourthvine on December 12th, 2009 01:52 am (UTC)
We can be ashamed of our failure to notice the appropriate ticky box together! And, wow, it's amaaaaazing how many people got snowflakes. Go, us!

Age definitely has something to do with it.

As the fans age they might take some time off to be a parent, but then they are back again when they have more free time.

I find this one interesting - I mean, almost no one leaps right back into fandom after becoming the parent of a newborn, but some people are out for a month, some three, some a year or two. I'm kind of half-in, half-out; I keep thinking I can do more than I can.
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Merrymerryish on December 11th, 2009 08:17 pm (UTC)
I think there's something in the water!
tried to eat the safe banana: TFV lettersthefourthvine on December 12th, 2009 01:52 am (UTC)

*cringes and tries to block mental images*
You're out of adventures :(claire on December 11th, 2009 08:18 pm (UTC)
Well, I have half a child, since he's still percolating. When I say I'm fine with the number of kids I have, I mean one though. I am assuming here that he will fully cook and come out of the oven as 1 person rather than half a person.
tried to eat the safe banana: TFV menorahthefourthvine on December 12th, 2009 01:54 am (UTC)
*nods* He will fully cook and come out as a full person. It is an ORDER.
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tried to eat the safe banana: TFV umbrellathefourthvine on December 12th, 2009 04:47 pm (UTC)
When I was a teenager, a shrink told me that worrying about whether or not I could be a good parent was a sign that I'd be a good parent. I am still not sure she was right about that, but I do think that people who are 100% sure they are right all the time and never think about their choices probably shouldn't be parents. Parenthood seems to work better if you put some thought into it.

And I seriously could not imagine having done this at, say, 16, because you need so much emotional control and comfort with delayed gratification, and as a teenager, I was not so good at either of those.
sprat: snowflakessprat on December 11th, 2009 08:33 pm (UTC)
I got mine a year ago, but he came partially grown. So...I am only sort of part of the fannish baby boom? (Which really does seem to exist, to me -- there's been a boom on my flist lately, anyway.)
putting 'costumed vigilante' as my occupation: blossomstartanshell on December 12th, 2009 04:50 am (UTC)
Complete stranger here, but if your comment means what I think it means, I'm so very sorry. ♥ I was unsure how to fill out the poll, too.
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Veevsee on December 11th, 2009 08:35 pm (UTC)
I've never been interested in having my own children, but I've always rather liked them, and I enjoy having kids in my life. I find it hard as a single woman with no kids to make real life friends with other women my own age (i.e.major childbearing and raising years). Women in marriage/partnerships who have kids always seem to jump to the conclusion that I don't get it or don't like kids.
tried to eat the safe banana: TFV brownthefourthvine on December 12th, 2009 04:59 pm (UTC)
That's one conclusion that fandom would save me from, mostly because there are lots of fan who are not parents but are still pro-kid. But I do understand where those women are coming from, largely because there's a lot of - I don't know how to put it. It's kind of like the tension between working mothers and stay at home mothers - mostly, it's not a big deal, but occasionally it will rise up and smite you so hard and so meanly that after a while it's hard not to flinch in the presence of a mother who made a different choice than you did. (LJ helps with this, too.)

And it's the same with women with children and women who are childless by choice. You only have to encounter a few of the more vitriolically childfree before you start making unwarranted assumptions, unless you have a place like LJ with lots of voices to act as a counter. It's sad.
Mal: mulch by ts5000malnpudl on December 11th, 2009 08:45 pm (UTC)
Heh. I've always been the person who visits the household with the new baby and lavishes attention on the dog. Hey, somebody's got to do it, right? *g*

Though I am convinced that the Earthling would trump even cute canines. He has superpowers.

Re the question at hand: It seems to go in waves. People I "met" online as young twenty-somethings are now closer to thirty, so it makes sense that some of them would be doing the babies thing. And so on...
Giddy: brain voicegiddygeek on December 11th, 2009 08:49 pm (UTC)
It makes me happy to see so many responses to the last question at the 3 or 4 mark. And the 5, too, but I assume those are people who got really really good news today. *grins*
Anoel: anoel lionessanoel on December 11th, 2009 08:59 pm (UTC)
Right now I definitely don't want kids for the next ten years or so. But I'm leaving the end decision up to my partner, if he or she wants kids, I'm fine with having ONE (and only one) and if not, zero is fine too. Because I'm pretty cool either way. at least right now.

I don't know about the old days of fandom but from 2003-2008 I didn't know anyone on LJ who was having a child and this year I know four. So it seems like there's a current baby boom to me.