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11 February 2006 @ 10:52 pm
Super-Wanky Special Poll: Nobody Loves Me, Everybody Hates Me. I Think I'll Go Eat Trolls.  
Except, see, I really don't want this to get wanky. I'm just not sure there's any way to discuss this without wank, although I'm going to try. Try really, really hard.

And please keep in mind, as you read this and select various boxes of clickiness, that I am not asking why no one loves me. Because, actually, I feel very loved. (Um, yeah, the title of the post and the poll would seem to argue otherwise, but my feeling is: if I'm going to post on a topic of potential wankiness, I might as well make fun of myself. That way, at least it will be amusing. To me, I mean.) LJ has been good to me.

It's just that anniversaries are much on my mind lately. (Best Beloved and I will be celebrating our, um, somethingth year together tomorrow. We still haven't figured out just what number year it is, though.) And my LJ anniversary is coming up, so I've been reflecting on it, in my usual mature, considered manner. ("Hmmm. Two years? Really?" [pause for thought] "Oooo! Porn!") And I've noticed that, over time, my experience of LJ has changed. For example, I'm much less likely to make friends (actual friends, not friends-list friends) now, and when I do, it's as a result of me seeking other people out.

Also, I've been getting strange responses to the comments I leave in other people's LJs lately. Used to be, people just responded. Or not. Whichever. Now - well, I sometimes get responses that indicate major astonishment that I commented on a friend's post at all.

This is weird. Isn't it? It's new to me, anyway, and therefore weird to me.

Admittedly, I'm not the biggest commenter; I don't comment on 99.5% of the posts I read, because I'm just not very social. (People who know me in real life are invited to take 10-15 minutes to laugh helplessly on the floor at that understatement.) But that's always been true, the not commenting and the not socializing. So I'm kind of wondering if the subtext of these new, weird responses is, "Wow. You actually came down from your high horse long enough to leave a comment in my LJ! A very long and pointless comment, let me add, which I'm kind of astonished you thought I'd be interested in." (Because when I do comment, I do it to excess. You should all be very glad I don't comment any more often, actually.) In other words, I'm wondering if my bad LJ habits (lack of comments, spotty replying, a dearth of posts) have made me something of, um, a Notorious B.I.T.C.H. (I'm spelling it! For purposes of delicacy! See? No wankiness here!)

Which, hey, if that's the case, I'm fine with it, actually. (Yet more evidence for bitch-hood, I realize.) But, okay. You know how we are all destined for hell because of all the fun we're having? I suspect I will not be frolicking on level 2 with the rest of you lusty folks, but rather wherever it is they store the excessively curious. (I'll be asking "Why?" in hell, in other words. This is a very suitable fate for me.) I'm okay with my LJ experience changing; I'm still having just as much fun here - more fun than is legal in most states, in fact. But I want to know why it's changed.

So I'm asking you.

But, seriously, this is not a request for you to tell me you love me. (Love doesn't need a season! Or a reason! Or a wankfest!) Instead, I invite you to speculate on why other people don't love me. Or, at any rate, why they seem unwilling to talk to me, and why they sometimes act shocked when I talk to them.

Plus, it's an occasion to post a poll. And is there ever a really bad reason to do that?

Poll #671603 Baby, baby, where did the love go?

Click here so I know that - *sob* - someone is actually taking my poll.

There, there. We all love you. Get some therapy or something, would you? Or maybe a hug. I find a hug helps.

So. Tell me about me, darling. Why does no one want to be my best friend?

You don't post often enough. How can we love you if we can't remember you?
You don't respond to your comments consistently enough. If you don't say talk back to people, they, um, assume you don't want to talk. Is this a surprise to you, sugar?
You aren't open enough. No one wants to overshare with the undersharer, kiddo.
You don't comment in other people's journals enough. If you don't reach out, how can you touch someone?
You already have friends. It's easier to invite the lone kid to play. Plus, I mean, look at your friends. They're so cool! Or dorky! Or something!
You aren't a newbie any more, and we're all busy staring at the new kids.
You're boring. You always have the same old Lego set, when other kids are building trains.
You really are just that much of a mean snob.
You know, with the rants and so on, you don't exactly come off as the friendliest kid on the block.
Something else, which I will describe in loving detail in the comments.

So, huh. That's really all the talking about me that I had stored up. Instead, tell me about you. Has your experience changed on LJ over the years?

I just got here. There hasn't been time for it to change.

And - you saw this coming, right? - how has your LJ experience change since you started?

I've become less open: not so much with the overshare, the personal details, the unlocked posts.
I've become more open. The most humiliating incident of my childhood will make a great post. And where else would I discuss my sexual disasters? It's what LJ is for.
I've become less internet-stupid. Fewer huge pictures not behind cuts! Less derogatory personal ranting posted for all to see!
I've become more internet-stupid. In fact, I've been featured on fandom_wank three times just this week. R0X0R!
I've become nicer. People routinely go into diabetic comas from one of my comments: that's how sweet I am.
I've become meaner. RL is for nice; hating is for the internet. I mean, if you're not hating, why are you even online?
I've become less social, in the sense that I don't meet so many new people, add so many new journals, or make so many new friends. I am an internet of one.
I've become more social. I make communities! I make connections! I make many many friends! I'm like this gorgeous cross between a butterfly and a herd of buffalo!
I've become less boring. No one wants to see my to-do list ("Buy milk, pistachios, amaretto. Write porn. Learn to stand on head."), so I make that private, these days. And my choice of shoes this morning? I made that without posting a photo poll!
I've become more boring. If people want to help me pick my shoes out, who am I to deny the Will of the Internet?
I'm happier here. More sure of myself, more skillful, even prettier. Soon I will take off my glasses and let down my hair and the romantic comedy will commence.
I've become less happy here. Fans, they are mean. Fandom, it is wanky and hurtful. Do you see these scars? Do you? They're from THE INTERNET! Damn you. Damn you all to hell.
I'm not here so much. See, I got this thing we call a life, and it's been taking my time away from porn and wank. I don't recognize myself when I look in the mirror, either.
I'm here much more. Let us all laugh as we recall the LJ I got "just for the friends list" and then "just for commenting." And compare it to my recent post on My 31 Most Favorite Sexual Kinks (Picspam!).
Something else, which I will describe (using footnotes and diagrams where necessary) in the comments.
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tried to eat the safe banana: Moose in bluethefourthvine on February 12th, 2006 12:10 am (UTC)
Everything is most definitely fine, dearest. I'm just hoping people will either say, "No, really, everyone gets the 'Why are you commenting here' replies," or "You get those replies because you are so [insert adjective of choice]."

The sad part is, I don't really care about the adjective. I just want to know what it is.

I take curiosity much, much too far. And, you know, thinking back, this explains so much of my life.

Of course, this capacity I have for not noticing being bothered about these things may explain why I have trouble staying married, too.

No, no. You have trouble staying married because you are too fabulous for just one. Or two. Basically, you are too fabulous for any integer.
BUT HARRY STYLESestrella30 on February 11th, 2006 09:54 pm (UTC)

and see? it is polls like THIS why I love you so damn much ♥

honestly though, if people dont comment to me (lord, especially THESE days) I just think its because Im posting about something they're not interested (the wb! rps! WB RPS JESUS CHRIST!) and not the fault of the *commenter* But, you know. those of us writing wb rps might have *koff* different standards than most people.
tried to eat the safe banana: Fan servicethefourthvine on February 13th, 2006 03:27 am (UTC)
...You love me because I post polls that anyone with any sense would know better than to post?

Wow. You...I mean, I knew you were easy, but I had no idea how easy you were.

*is impressed*

honestly though, if people dont comment to me (lord, especially THESE days) I just think its because Im posting about something they're not interested (the wb! rps! WB RPS JESUS CHRIST!)

No, no. We're interested - it's like, okay. Once, I was walking down the street, and a car in a parking lot just burst into flames. No reason at all, no one near it. And I stood there, astonished, and watched it burn - didn't call 911 or do anything - because it was just so amazing. Cars don't do that.

That's what people are doing when they aren't commenting on your posts. They're like, "Oh, someone should get an intervention together for poor Estrella," but they're just too fascinated to do anything but stare.

But you serve as an example to others! Be proud! And you bring joy into our lives. Be even more proud!

those of us writing wb rps might have *koff* different standards than most people.

Oh, honey. You don't have standards.

And that is why I love you.
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Cristin Anneladysorka on February 11th, 2006 09:59 pm (UTC)
My LJ experience has been... weird and strange, in that I've been around LJ for four years but only really started actually making friends via LJ about a year ago.

...of course, this is my own fault for being an exceptionally introverted "OMG, I can't talk to them!" person even online, and you know, I've long since discovered that if I don't talk to people, they don't talk to me. Not that this helps me talk to them in the first place.
lipsum on February 12th, 2006 08:35 am (UTC)
More or less ditto, with different spans of time involved.
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tried to eat the safe bananathefourthvine on February 13th, 2006 03:44 am (UTC)
they're just awed by your coolness

If there is anyone on the planet who can be awed by the coolness of a woman who a) cannot consistently brush her own teeth without foam and sex related disasters b) once had a complete stranger inform her that her shoes were on the wrong feet and c) has a documented, lengthy obsession with a bird she has never actually seen - I mean, really. Aren't we setting the bar a bit low?

I became active in online fandom thingies about 18 months ago. I had my LJ for years before that and was aware of fandom but not really *in* it til I realised there were active communities for people who were obsessively squeeing over tall ship fandoms

Oh, those ships. They can turn any girl's head.

I'm always fascinated by the people who were on LJ before getting into fandom and kept the same journal - I mean, don't you get kind of a weird mix of friends and commenters? (You post about, for example, ships. One person says it's a lovely photo. One person says the photo makes her think of Horatio and Archie fucking against the mast. It just seems like those two groups are not going to be easy to deal with in the same place.) I mean, I know you're, like, the most open girl in all of fandom, but even so, it could get weird.
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cranberryink on February 11th, 2006 10:02 pm (UTC)
I remember some actress responding to the question of whether or not it was easier to get dates now that she's famous, etc. and she said it was, in fact, much harder. But why!?! Well, because nobody asks anymore, she said. People just figured she already had a zillion friends and dates and didn't need any more losers pestering her to spend time with them.

A situation which may parallel yours a bit. All the fame, though probably less of the fortune, I'm afraid. You're pretty well-known around these parts, and I imagine not a lot of sane people want to be the dork pestering you with comments and questions. Plus, you come across as really articulate and intelligent. And you know how secure people on the internets can be. ;)
Stillanestillane on February 12th, 2006 12:02 am (UTC)
As someone you don't know from Adam, as well as a person who's been in the fandom waters for less than a year, I can completely support this statement. When people I respect comment on something I've posted, and particularly when they say nice things, my surprise stems more from a 'holy crap, fan X noticed something I did?' zone than any negativity toward said fan. It isn't that I think she's a snob; it's that I'm stunned to be seen as worth checking out in the wide world of fic. I tend to try to avoid blowing that coolness by revealing my silly underpinnings.

So, basically, yes, I don't want to be the dork pestering you, even though you would undoubtedly be kind and generous about it.
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Iphiginia Saberhagen: Wombats Rule swiped from MMWDfanofall on February 11th, 2006 10:05 pm (UTC)
Exactly what cranberryink said, except that she said it much better than I could.
tried to eat the safe banana: Wombatsthefourthvine on February 13th, 2006 03:56 am (UTC)
Well, and let me repeat what I said to her, only in summary form: that's so, so weird. Because it's just not how I see myself, you know?

*attempts to obtain parallax view of herself*

*sprains eyes in the attempt*

*goes to take asprin*

(Which, huh. I know you can strain your eye muscles, but can you sprain them? I think I need to go look this up.)
Still Waiting For My Jetpack: ben affleck & kevin smithazewewish on February 11th, 2006 10:08 pm (UTC)
I like you (I really like you *g*), even when I know nothing at all about 95.5% of the fandoms you post about, which is probably why you don't comment in my journal, either. I figure we both just have each other friended because a) we're cool & b) between us, we've got just about every shiny fandom covered.

But I still hear hugs help. So, here, have Affleck hugging on his bitch. :)
tried to eat the safe banana: The world is my fandomthefourthvine on February 13th, 2006 04:27 am (UTC)
a) we're cool & b) between us, we've got just about every shiny fandom covered

Well, I'd have to argue with the first one - I am a textbook case of lack of cool - but I can give hearty support to the second one. If someone needed to assemble a team of people capable of dealing with any and all fandoms (perhaps a fan fiction crash team?), we would both make great candidates. ("Mutant RPS?" "No, that'd be azewewish." "She says she doesn't do RPS involving mid-Victorians." "Oh, mid-Victorians. Why didn't you say so? I can totally handle that.")

Plus, hey, we share a city. Greater metropolitan area. Freeway hub. Whatever you want to call it.

So, here, have Affleck hugging on his bitch.

I had no idea he had so many bitches; I thought it was pretty much just Matt Damon. (He has hidden depths!) So which one is that? Also, should I be touched or scared that they have matching facial hair? I mean, is that the trendy equivalent of dressing in matching outfits, or what?
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tried to eat the safe banana: TFV umbrellathefourthvine on February 14th, 2006 11:09 pm (UTC)
I think, Cool, she's reading my lj! Her - that amazingly smart writer chick!

You know, I should have you doing publicity for me. You make me sound, in the words of T-Rex, super-cool.

I'm just tickled to death when you do comment on my journal and anyone who would give you a snarky response to a comment is just an ass.

It's not so much the snark. I mean, for one thing, I can handle snark; I have, like, a black belt in snark-on-snark combat. It's just - surprise. Like: wow. You are...here. That's...unexpected. And I find that fascinating. But I'm concluding, from the general consensus here, that those people are either:

1. Somewhat daunted by sheer f-list numbers. (Flistov units, someone called it. I shall be using that phrase years from now.)

2. Under the impression that I am much cooler than I am. Which I am so not going to argue with. (Or, okay, I am, but only reflexively. It's like, Aziraphale from Good Omens sees a wile and he thwarts it. I see a statement and I argue with it. It's genetic or something. Secretly, I am reveling in the knowledge that people think I'm cool.)
Susan the Neon Nurse: Howard Dean!neonnurse on February 11th, 2006 10:13 pm (UTC)
I think comments are just DOWN in general. I blame lack of reader confidence and the Bush administration.
tried to eat the safe banana: Politicsthefourthvine on February 14th, 2006 11:13 pm (UTC)
Absolutely. When you have a shocking lack of leadership and a weak moral compass at the head of a country, it affects everything. Like, I've noticed Frank the LJ goat has been looking very disreputable of late. When even goats are feeling the pull to basic badness, something must be done.

*joins LJ-based revolution*
Lucycereta on February 11th, 2006 10:16 pm (UTC)
Huh. In trying to think if I'd ever been astonished that you replied to a post of mine, I couldn't actually recall if you'd ever replied to a post of mine ;).

I don't think I would be astonished, although you're not someone I necessarily expect to reply, mostly because, well, I don't think you have much, but I can't say I've attributed that to anything negative on your part. Some people just don't comment much.
tried to eat the safe banana: Flying umbrellathefourthvine on February 15th, 2006 01:28 am (UTC)
I couldn't actually recall if you'd ever replied to a post of mine

Precisely! This is what I expect from my fellow LJers.

Some people just don't comment much.

Totally. And I've gotten much better at comments - gone are the days when I responded only to direct requests for information, and then only anonymously. These days, I just recklessly leave comments everywhere, sometimes as many as ten per day.

Seriously, for me, that is major progress.

*glows in quiet pride at her astonishing growth as a commenter*
Anna S.eliade on February 11th, 2006 10:26 pm (UTC)
It's so strange how internal and external perceptions can differ. The only impression I have of you are positive ones--that you're a faninsh giver, taking the time and care to make thoughtful recs. And your occasional comments on my posts have always made me happy. They don't need to be frequent. *hugs*
Destinadestina on February 11th, 2006 10:32 pm (UTC)
That's more or less what I was going to say. That's why I couldn't find any applicable ticky boxes to check in the first question. :)
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Bettybrown_betty on February 11th, 2006 10:27 pm (UTC)
I assume people are intimidated by your coolness. No. Seriously.
tried to eat the safe banana: Happy umbrellathefourthvine on February 15th, 2006 01:38 am (UTC)
See, and I am stunned at the news that anyone thinks I have any.

I should migrate the My Life As a Dork posts over here. That would conclusively prove my total lack of coolness, I think.
This Space Intentionally Left Blankbarkley on February 11th, 2006 10:33 pm (UTC)
I've been on LJ for over four years and I was just thinking the other day that I'm getting more boring. In the beginning, I'd have something interesting to say (imnsho) and I wouldn't say it because I wanted to streamline the post to the most interesting things. I remember convincing myself that people didn't need a blow by blow account of my day no matter how cool I thought it was. I think I've fallen from that a bit (A bit - Ha) because my posts are getting longer and the interesting factor is not increasing.

I do find myself from time to time making new friends and I think it comes from a sustained effort from both parties in terms of frequent mutual commenting. So if one person doesn't do "their share" of the commenting, then things don't develop. And it's not like it has to be on personal stuff (though that depends on what kind of friends you are talking about) it just has to be something where you can tell the two of you enjoy talking about something together. Perhaps without a reaching out to other people's comments, people don't get the sense of mutual friendship building up, and they assume you are merely replying to their comments in your posts because that's what you do.

tried to eat the safe banana: Daisythefourthvine on February 16th, 2006 05:43 am (UTC)
I don't think you're getting more boring. Okay, I don't always understand what you say - let's not talk about the amount of time it took me to understand what Northern Exposure was - but I'm always happy to see one of your posts. Or pictures of your feet; I always look forward to seeing where your feet have been over the year.

But I do notice - and I'm talking generally, now - that posts, in general, tend to become longer the longer the person has been on LJ. And they become more, hmmm. Performative? That's not quite the concept I mean, though. Okay, take me as an example. These days, I tend to regard various things as potential LJ posts. Like, if I'm pissed off about the text on the side of my tampon box? Instead of just ranting about it, I rant about it in LJ format, even if I'm just doing it in my own head. Does that make sense?

Possibly not. My point is, I think we acquire a sort of documentary urge after a certain amount of time on LJ, and we're always taking notes of things to put in our journals. Also, we tend to loosen up in style and structure. Which, all taken together, can result in either a very interesting and personal journal or a very boring and personal journal, depending on the writer.

Hmmm. This comment kind of wandered off-topic, I note; sorry. I actually also meant to talk about your second paragraph, but now I'm afraid to get into it too much, for fear I'll end up with, like, a fifteen-page essay. So, in short: I agree. Part of the LJ experience is these loosely-structured running conversations that start in journal A with four comments and then, two days later, pick up in journal B with two more, and so on. I suspect much of what I was sort of subconsciously noticing was that I don't do that as much anymore. And probably that's the case because I don't answer comments consistently.

Of course, that's mostly my fault, although it would be very helpful if LJ would send me my comment notifications. But that is a rant for another time, and I have already way over-responded, here. (Seriously, I am very grateful for the comment character limit. Without it, I suspect I'd never finish any comment, ever.)
sprat: Inuit storiessprat on February 11th, 2006 10:33 pm (UTC)
I'm the last person who ought to be giving anybody advice about any sort of social endeavor, online or not. But I will say that your comments are always welcome in my LJ, and make me neither amazed nor defensive, but instead just kind of yay and happy.

(Which, I know, is exactly the kind of thing you *didn't* want people to say. But your actual question beats the heck out of me, so you'll just have to make do. *g*)
tried to eat the safe banana: Daisythefourthvine on February 16th, 2006 05:52 am (UTC)
Well, but there's never really a wrong time to tell someone she can make you yay and happy with a mere comment.

And hearing from you, whether in post or comment form, makes me feel the same; it's seemed to me that you've been posting more often this month, or more regularly, anyway, and that is definite cause for both yayness and happiness on my part. (Which, yes, off-topic. But I keep meaning to mention that and then not, and since I have you here anyway...)
Cherry: ford (innocent)cherryice on February 11th, 2006 10:56 pm (UTC)
You're internet famous, hon. *G* If I seem a tad surprised that you comment on my LJ, it's because I'm totally not a BNF. People know who you are, and you have a gigantic friendslist. I, personally, am just not that interesting, and spend more time than should be necessary refraining from blathering on about bioremediation and hydrocarbon degraders. (I was actually having slightly more involved thoughts the other night, about internet fame and what makes a BNF, and all the reasons I will never be one. I think I'm actually okay in my corner, but that it neither here nor there.)

I do find that my experience has altered. When I first got my LJ (four years ago, OMG), I was part of a small, close fandom with a central chat channel most everyone visited. I was also in 16 and in retrospect, more emo than I might wish to recall. I knew everyone on my flist reasonably well. While I suppose I was even more of a chore to put up with then than I am now, *G*, I really do think that being surrounded by articulate people who conducted discourse at a higher level was helpful in my linguistic development.

I'm rather prone to fandom hopping now (in fact, I haven't really had a home fandom for a while now) and that's led to a rather piecemeal composition of my flist. I have a few people each from multiple fandoms, and I don't really do fannish squee, so there's less of an opening for an initial opening of communications.

I myself post comments less frequently than I used to -- I've be absolutely horrible as of late, if I'm going to be honest. I really hope that I'm not coming across as stand-offish myself. I've actually been worrying about it, but I just don't always have time to keep up with my flist. I know everyone else is busy too, so perhaps I just let myself become overwhelmed too easily.

If someone isn't commenting on my LJ, I assume that I'm simply not being interesting enough to nudge a response. I think it likely many others have similar thoughts -- not "OMFG, what a BITCH!"

I do flock more than I used to, simply because I'm following a very specialized educational path, and several of the groups and student groups I've mentioned involvement in have my real name and even phone number posted on a website by my permission. I'm afraid I'm rather easy to find.

(It seems I've posted much more than anyone else in this thread. Apologies. But, hey, I out wanked you.)

Seriously, anyone trying to make you feel guilty is not worth the time, though there's a difference between surprise and guilting someone. You're just -- cooler than the rest of us. Internet famous. Honest.
tried to eat the safe bananathefourthvine on February 16th, 2006 06:11 am (UTC)
You're internet famous, hon.


Um, wow. That's...huh. Surprising. But maybe we all get 15 minutes of internet fame, and in that case, I'm very very glad that I'm not, you know, getting mine via a recording of me pretending to be a Jedi or whatever.

I, personally, am just not that interesting, and spend more time than should be necessary refraining from blathering on about bioremediation and hydrocarbon degraders.

But this is the very definition of interesting! No, really, it is. And, actually, I would bet that more people recognize your name than mine; you write fabulous fic, and that's definitely something people remember.

(I was actually having slightly more involved thoughts the other night, about internet fame and what makes a BNF, and all the reasons I will never be one. I think I'm actually okay in my corner, but that it neither here nor there.)

Oooo. You should share your thinkiness on this topic, because BNF is one of the most elusive concepts in all fandom, and I don't mean just for me. (Many things elude me, after all.) I tend to think that we just don't have BNFs anymore; the old structure of fandom gave rise to them, and now that fandom has become so loose and decentralized, there's just no way for someone to develop a big name. But I take it you don't agree?

I really hope that I'm not coming across as stand-offish myself. I've actually been worrying about it, but I just don't always have time to keep up with my flist. I know everyone else is busy too, so perhaps I just let myself become overwhelmed too easily.

Well, you certainly don't strike me as stand-offish at all. You're quiet sometimes, but that's normal.

And I think we all get overwhelmed on a pretty regular basis. It's wonderful that there's so much of fandom, but it's too much for anyone to keep up with. And I get the friends list thing; in most weeks, there are at least two days when I don't check my friends list, but...yeah. Life has to happen, too.

I think almost everyone in fandom understands that there's a sort of a cycle to fannish participation, and people go through various levels of engagement and involvement. So I'm pretty sure you don't come across as stand-offish to anyone else, either. Or, okay, anyone who is sane. (This is the internet, after all. There are strange people here.)

(It seems I've posted much more than anyone else in this thread. Apologies. But, hey, I out wanked you.)

Hail, fellow long-commenter! Although I don't think you actually wanked, per se. I mean, you were on topic and interesting. Doesn't that mean it can't be wank?

*reaches for the Unbridged Fannish Dictionary, 13th edition*

*regards the nine-page entry for 'wank' with horror*

*hastily puts dictionary away again*
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