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22 October 2006 @ 06:47 pm
Poll: Consensus, Part One  
So. I miss talking to and hearing from y'all. But I'm suffering from a tiny problem, namely absence of any ability to finish anything. Someday I hope to be able to write actual useful sentences that connect to other sentences again, but today is not that day, so I'm going to do a themed poll series instead of meta or a themed recs post. (There are only three parts to this themed poll set, but I realize that, from me, three posts is totally massive spamming. My apologies in advance.)

The poll's theme is: consensus.

In part one, below, I'm going to try to establish my relative fannish sanity by consensus. To do so, I need to take you on a brief tour of my brain, focusing on two particular fannish things it does that I'm starting to suspect are - well, weird. (And keep in mine I'm judging myself compared to other fans; we'd already be considered insane by many of Them Folks Out There.)

We will now depart on our trip through TFV's brain. Please keep your arms and legs inside the vehicle at all times.

Imaginary Fandoms. I have, um, imaginary fandoms. I don't mean original fiction that I tell myself - I mean original fandoms, where I come up with, for example, a long and detailed original story, and then entertain myself with considering - and sometimes, um, even writing - various types of fan fiction or kerfluffles or meta that might result from given installments of the story. Sometimes I do, like, a TV series, and cast it with imaginary actors and plan out both FPF and RPF. In my most recent imaginary fandom, I've even begun mentally vidding it.

These imaginary fandoms hit basically all my buttons, of course. I'm not actually going to describe this in any kind of detail, because, um, oh my god so embarrassing that I kind of want to die just from typing it out, but the current one involves time traveling teams (one "temporal scientist" and one assassin-ish type) from the future. The main team, at this point (in my head, we have arrived roughly at book or season three), has uncovered evidence that they are working for - and trapped by, and no, I'm not even going to elaborate on the whole legal enslavement aspect, because I do not want to die of embarrassment - an organization of extremely questionable ethics and purpose, which opposes an organization that also has extremely questionable ethics and purpose. Oh, and the timestream, which they're supposed to protect, is slowly dissolving.

I have assorted mental fan fiction for this story, all carefully tagged to various chapters or episodes. I have, as I said, mental vids. I entertained myself on one long, hideous drive to Pasadena imagining the meta resulting from the end of book or season one.

I'm pretty sure that all this is the very definition of sad and pathetic. But, hey, this is fandom - maybe we all do this. Do you?

Epics That Must Not Be Read. (Term borrowed from the only other person I know for sure has written one of these. She will not be named here - unless she just wants to be - out of mercy for her.) Another thing I do is write these long, involved pieces of FF that are only for an audience of one, and that one person is me. They're always AUs of some kind, and they always start in canon and move sharply away from it, and they always entertain the hell out of me. But only me.

I've written two. The first is a BtVS story that currently stands at 80 pages of actual story, 30 more of notes and dialog, and 5 of outline, plus 10 pages of deleted scenes. It assumes that canon remains the same up to "Once More with Feeling." (Please note that "Once More with Feeling" is the only episode of BtVS season six that I've seen - and I haven't seen any of five or four, either. No, wait - I think I've seen one episode in season four. My point is, the first clue I had to the ETMNBR status of this beast was that I was writing in canon I hadn't seen.) At that point, a single line changes, and this massively alters everything from then on. In terms of timeline, I've written up to where season nine would have been if there had been one, and I know how things will resolve in season ten.

There are only two people in the world who would be interested in this story; one is me, and the other is Best Beloved. We've both read it. I know it's an ETMNBR, so I'm not worried about finishing it. But I re-read it fairly regularly, and I still write on it from time to time, because it entertains me so damned much.

The other one is much more embarrassing because I didn't realize it was an ETMNBR until after I sent it to be beta-read. It's also rather long (and needs to be much, much longer), an AU that assumes canon up to a certain point and then sharply diverges, and entertaining only to me. (My poor, poor betas - some of them actually read the fucker, and provided really helpful, thoughtful, useful comments - in short, they helped me make a story that was interesting only to me even more interesting. To me. At the cost of a lot of their time and effort. I would send them flowers and chocolate except that I'm embarrassed to speak to them.)

Now for consensus. Feel free to judge harshly.

Poll #851020 Consensus, Part 1: My Fannish Sanity

So. Um. Do you have any imaginary fandoms?

Of course! There's absolutely nothing weird about that. Nothing, I tell you. Nothing!
80(18.3%)
Well, maybe. Sort of. I mean, I've got something similar.
144(32.9%)
No, but I don't think it's a sign of active insanity. Enjoy your brain's twistiness.
194(44.3%)
No, and I do think it's a sign of active insanity. Get help before it's too late.
7(1.6%)
Something else. You will find my diagnosis in the comments.
13(3.0%)

So. Um. Do you have any Epics That Must Not Be Read languishing on your hard drive? (Note: I have clear and fairly definitive proof that mine are indeed ETMNBR. So I'm not looking for debate on whether or not I have any; I just want to know if you do.)

More than one.
114(26.1%)
One.
57(13.1%)
No, but only because I've deleted them.
38(8.7%)
No. I've never written one. But I can see how it could happen, and I'm not ruling it out for the future.
161(36.9%)
No. I've never written one, and frankly I'm not sure how the hell you managed to. Or why.
24(5.5%)
Something else. You will find my monograph on the topic in the comments.
42(9.6%)
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captain heteroknowledgeablenotpoetry on October 23rd, 2006 01:43 am (UTC)
I have "imaginary fandoms" in the sense that I write television pilots and movie screenplays as a part of my everyday work required for classes, and then I fantasize about the series and the fandom and all the meta and kerfuffles and what sort of fic would be written, and also dream about winning an Emmy and my interview on the Daily Show and basically I'm a giant narcissitic nerd.

But then there are the pilots and screenplays I will never write, the ones that are so shamelessly self-indulgent and slashy (like the screenplay that's basically an adapted version of Stephen Fry's The Liar mashed in with Christopher Dunn's Kit Marlowe and features a lot of Hugh Laurie and Stephen Fry running around the roofs of Cambridge and being spies and writing comedy and loving each other). And the fandom for that, in my head, would rival SGA, Smallville, and Supernatural put together. (Hey, a girl can dream, right?)
tried to eat the safe banana: TFV bluethefourthvine on October 23rd, 2006 03:00 am (UTC)
Okay, first, I just have to say - thank you for responding to this poll. Posting it was traumatizing, because - my psyche! Which is not normal! Laid out for all to see!

When I came creeping back to read the comments, I was braced for horror. And instead, the first comment was you, saying, hey, that's not completely insane.

I have "imaginary fandoms" in the sense that I write television pilots and movie screenplays as a part of my everyday work required for classes, and then I fantasize about the series and the fandom and all the meta and kerfuffles and what sort of fic would be written, and also dream about winning an Emmy and my interview on the Daily Show and basically I'm a giant narcissitic nerd.

I don't think you have to consider them imaginary in this case. You're willing to show them to someone. If I imagined anyone - anyone at all actually reading or watching my imaginary fandoms, I would, basically, die. (Late at night, I sometimes worry that telepaths are reading my mind. I mean, I know they aren't, but - part of the origin of my great fear of telepathy (like, at least 25% of it) is that if anyone could see into my head, I would die.) Just - dead from shame, right there. And it's the imaginary fandoms that would kill me.

Because I know they're terrible. Whereas yours, obviously, are not. So yours are fandoms in waiting. Mine are just fandoms in my own mind. (But - it is so obvious to me, and always has been, that if you have a mental story, you also have to consider every possible AU and also sometimes make them all vampires and stuff. And now I have a name for those unattached chunks of the main story: fan fiction.)

features a lot of Hugh Laurie and Stephen Fry running around the roofs of Cambridge and being spies and writing comedy and loving each other

I see nothing wrong with this whatsoever. *nods firmly*
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Rat Creature: flailratcreature on October 23rd, 2006 01:46 am (UTC)
You are kind of weird...*g* the idea of imaginary fandoms never even occurred to me. But yours sounds rather cool. I mean, if it existed, I'd probably be in it. Heh. As for the epics, I chose "something else" because I just don't write fanfic, so I don't have any on my hard drive, but I assume if I wrote I might have some.
tried to eat the safe banana: TFV brownthefourthvine on October 23rd, 2006 03:03 am (UTC)
But yours sounds rather cool.

Oh, no, trust me, it's humiliating and tailored strictly to my own personal interests. So, like, the doctor character? Brilliant but totally unethical and morally weak and easily manipulated, and at this point he's my main team's closest ally.

No one wants to read a story in which "morally reprehensible, but at least we know how to deal with him" is one of the better characters in the universe. Except. I have a great and abiding interest in medical ethics and what happens when doctors don't have any. So it makes me happy.
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Lucy: ceretacereta on October 23rd, 2006 01:47 am (UTC)
#2, no, but only because I'm generally too lazy to write much of anything that I don't plan to post, and when I do, it's usually bad erotic novel-type things ("type" as in I never write more than a few bits of them) with original characters.
tried to eat the safe banana: Writingthefourthvine on October 23rd, 2006 04:12 am (UTC)
*interested*

How do you know the difference between somemthing that's postable and something that's not before you write it? Because, you know, I went into both my ETMNBR thinking, "Yay!" It was only after I'd gotten several dozen pages in (and, in the second case, after I sent it off to betas oh my god) that I knew I'd written ETMNBRs.
Sue30toseoul on October 23rd, 2006 01:50 am (UTC)
Dude. My ratio of ETMNBR to posted fic? About 20 to 1. They aren't WIPs; they are mental handjobs that will never see the light of day, no matter how many chapters I write.
tried to eat the safe banana: Sheppard Linethefourthvine on October 23rd, 2006 04:15 am (UTC)
Maaaaan. You know, I totally get the concept of an ETMNBR and it is totally critical that they not be read, but - I still want to see yours.

*curious*

How do you know when something is an ETMNBR? I know what criteria I use, but - you have a lot more than I do, it sounds like, so - yeah, curious.
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¿es eso un libro de besos?: fangirldarthfox on October 23rd, 2006 01:51 am (UTC)
You know, I think what you call "imaginary fandoms" are what people who work in the television industry call "projects in development". I'm just saying.
Merlin Missy: Shut Up Flashmtgat on October 23rd, 2006 03:25 am (UTC)
Yeah. Pretty much my response. :)
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on sateda, i was an accountantminervacat on October 23rd, 2006 01:52 am (UTC)
i have never WRITTEN an epic that must not be read, but i basically have a really twisty, long epic that must not be read featuring extensive fandom crossovers and mary sues and canon timeline rearranging for my purposes and general wretchedness IN MY HEAD, and i've been telling myself parts of it - to help me fall asleep, to distract me in class - for going on, um, two years now. i add crossover characters to the epic in my head as i acquire new fandoms, i revise past canon if i decide i want my mary sue to end up with someone different than she'd been with before, and, oh my god, i cannot believe i am admitting this in public.

but you're not alone. i think the only reason i've never written it down is because i could not handle the shame if someone ever FOUND it.
Vanzetti: change the metervaznetti on October 23rd, 2006 01:57 am (UTC)
You are not alone.

I do the same -- that is, there's the massive crossover mary sue epic that I've been thinking about for... well, a lot more than two years, anyway. Characters added as my fannish interests expand, although I don't often go back and rewrite past events. And often, when I add a new fandom I start a whole new one as well.

But this will never, ever involve putting words on the page.
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Grey Bardgrey_bard on October 23rd, 2006 01:54 am (UTC)
I've never *written* any epics that must not be read, but I've sure had fun plotting them out and thinking them. I just don't write them because... I'm lazy.
tried to eat the safe banana: Writingthefourthvine on October 23rd, 2006 04:24 am (UTC)
See, I am sick with envy for all you people who know a given concept is an ETMNBR before you spend the better part of three months writing it. I want to learn this ability.

Although, downside - I mean, they do entertain me. I enjoy re-reading them. So I'm glad to have written them; I just wish I'd known before I sent the second one to beta.
ink_monkeyink_monkey on October 23rd, 2006 01:57 am (UTC)
Well, not exactly an <i>imaginary</i> fandom...
...it's just one I haven't gotten around to writing yet. But it will exist someday, mark my words! I've already begun wondering what the most popular slash pairings will be, and planning deliberate subtext for them. Yes, I'm pandering to not-yet-in-existence fans. I'm egotistical that way.

I haven't started writing ETMNBRs for it yet, though. That's next, after I write the damn thing during NaNoWriMo. Then, and only then, will I start writing the bizarre, slashy AUs.
tried to eat the safe banana: Dinosaurs and sodomythefourthvine on October 23rd, 2006 04:28 am (UTC)
Re: Well, not exactly an <i>imaginary</i> fandom...
But it will exist someday, mark my words!

*makes note*

Yes, I'm pandering to not-yet-in-existence fans.

This is a good thing. It will be a useful skill to have later.

But, in my opinion, plans to actually write the thing elevate it from imaginary fandom to fandom in waiting. I should've had a category for that on the poll.

*considers reposting*

Then, and only then, will I start writing the bizarre, slashy AUs.

I am impressed by your self-discipline. On the imaginary fandom before the one that's in my head now, I got the groundwork out of the way, almost got to the first actual plot bit, and was just compelled to go back and work out the vampire AU. Just, you know, because.
peeps wanna see peeps boink: we have done the impossiblemusesfool on October 23rd, 2006 01:57 am (UTC)
I have many epic mary sue stories in my head that will never be written, let alone read. I can't imagine expending the energy to write that much on something that I didn't want to share.
tried to eat the safe banana: Writingthefourthvine on October 23rd, 2006 04:32 am (UTC)
*sad*

See, but neither of my ETMNBR are Mary Sues or any other obvious FF no-go zone. (I have those, but they stay wedged in my head where they belong, thank you kindly.) The ideas seemed like good ones when I started. But I realized, very late in the writing process, that they were totally masturbatory, not in the porn sense - because, hey, if I wrote porn, I would so very much share, just because I can hardly ever do that - but in the only-interesting-to-me sense.

And I wouldn't've wasted the time in writing them, either, except - I didn't know it would be a waste until I'd done a ton of work, and at that point, I might as well keep entertaining myself, you know?
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Very inconvenient, as now I have no shaving-glassdzurlady on October 23rd, 2006 03:12 am (UTC)
See, sometimes I like people telling me the plots of things I'm interested in, but don't have the will to read/watch (usually when they are very long/angsty/otherwise irritating). A kind of cliffs notes, if you will, and to me, very satisfying. Case in point - I would love someone to do that for Anita Blake, so that I can get the cool sounding plot without the frustration of actually reading it.
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Do not taunt Happy Fun Ballrokeon on October 23rd, 2006 02:02 am (UTC)
I definitely have an imaginary fandom- the high fantasy novel I've never gotten around to putting on paper has half a dozen mental fanfics that go with it. Including a vampire AU and two separate Highlander crossovers. I'm not proud about those.

The ETMNBR are similar- they've been outlined and plotted in my head, but so far I've managed to resist actually writing them down. Which is good, because they are legion.
tried to eat the safe banana: TFV glowythefourthvine on October 23rd, 2006 04:39 am (UTC)
I'm not proud about those.

Well, on the one hand, I totally sympathize. And on the other hand, I kind of hate you, because the one thing my imaginary fandoms don't have is crossovers. But I bet now they will. Oh, god, I can already picture it.

My brain should have come with a warning label.

The ETMNBR are similar- they've been outlined and plotted in my head, but so far I've managed to resist actually writing them down.

But how do you know in advance that they are ETMNBR? Because, really, mine seemed like good ideas in theory. Just, in practice, total ETMNBR.
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Blackletterblackletter on October 23rd, 2006 02:04 am (UTC)
I certainly do the imaginary fandom thing. (I'm currently focused on a slash AU of my imaginary fandom. And I have a lot of fun imagining shipping wars.)

As for the ETMNBR, I don't have any *fandom* epics...mostly because I don't do much fandom writing period. But I have plenty of original fic that probably qualifies as something similar. (In that it's long, involved, crazy and done to entertain me and only me, as opposed to the things I actually want to publish someday. Oh, and these pseudo-ETMNBRs tend to be essentially fanfic of my own original stories.)
tried to eat the safe banana: Greek to methefourthvine on October 23rd, 2006 04:41 am (UTC)
I certainly do the imaginary fandom thing. (I'm currently focused on a slash AU of my imaginary fandom. And I have a lot of fun imagining shipping wars.)

*clings to kindred spirit*

In that it's long, involved, crazy and done to entertain me and only me, as opposed to the things I actually want to publish someday. Oh, and these pseudo-ETMNBRs tend to be essentially fanfic of my own original stories.

*nods*

This makes perfect, perfect sense to me.
Lady Moira: tsuzuki meeprosaleendhu on October 23rd, 2006 02:05 am (UTC)
My Epic that Must Not Be Read exists solely in my brain. It's up there. I could type it if I wanted, but the near-constant mental editting is part of the fun of keeping it inside. That and the MC is undeniably a Sue. No need to inflict that on any form of text.
peeps wanna see peeps boink: are you thinking what i'm thinkingmusesfool on October 23rd, 2006 02:15 am (UTC)
but the near-constant mental editting is part of the fun of keeping it inside.

Yes. I can change whatever I want, whenever I want, because it's not written down and it's never going to be. And I can handwave all the difficult plotty type things I'm not interested in. Because it's only to entertain me!
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all right, so you're nonchalant: lex hates bad pornrunpunkrun on October 23rd, 2006 02:07 am (UTC)
I was all ready to say "hell no" to the ETMNBR question, but then, slowly, miserably, I realized I had written many unfinished ETMNBRs...it's just they're all original fiction. And they're all horrible. But at the time I was totally in love with them.

Writing fanfiction actually helped me grow out of that, thanks to having an audience (and not wanting to embarrass myself in front of them) and their virulent hatred of Mary Sues.

Okay, I think I have to go hide my head under a pillow now that my brain has embarrassed me so thoroughly.
all right, so you're nonchalant: bright idearunpunkrun on October 23rd, 2006 02:13 am (UTC)
Oh, my intention, though, was not to bash ETMNBRs, but to say that now that I have an audience for fanfic, I still write for myself, but also for the invisible people that live in my computer. I've just had to get very cunning about writing stories that push my buttons while still being interesting to other people. I hate the idea of writing something I can't (or won't) show anyone.
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Auburn: Redhead Clubauburnnothenna on October 23rd, 2006 02:07 am (UTC)
You're talking about me, aren't you? I confess the great shame of my fannish life in one comment (one!) and suddenly it's immortalized as an acronym. And a mighty pretty one at that. (Also, oh, my poor betas, who were battered with out of sequence chapters for months on end, helped when they had little to no interest in the fandom, and never saw anything posted: I am heartily sorry, but keeping it away from anyone's eyes is the only responsible and sane response to over fifty chapters of X-Men comicverse AU covering hundreds of years and my obvious fan crush on Gambit.)

I answered maybe on the poll of imaginary fandoms. I don't really do it anymore, but I used to entertain myself through bouts of insomnia by lying in the dark and dreaming up plots and characters and imagining the wonderful book reviews that would greet this opus. I think that counts. If I'd known about fanfiction at the time I would absolutely have been imagining fanfiction of these stories.
Betty: Love mebrown_betty on October 23rd, 2006 02:48 am (UTC)
Oh good, someone else with a fan crush on Gambit. Er. *koff*
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